Comments on: Why the debate over creationism matters http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters Faith, mutatis mutandis Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:41:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Preterist Blog ~ 100% Hyperpreterist Free » Blog Archive » The Underlying Premise of “Covenant” Creationism http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/#comment-16045 The Preterist Blog ~ 100% Hyperpreterist Free » Blog Archive » The Underlying Premise of “Covenant” Creationism Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:23:45 +0000 http://undeception.com/?p=379#comment-16045 [...] Theistic evolutionist state that: …I don’t want Christianity’s credibility to be tied to the mast of any sinking ship. Trust me when I say that creationism is a sinking ship, and everyone outside the evangelical/fundamentalist bubble knows it. Don’t worry: you’ve still got time to board a lifeboat! But first, do help me untie our faith’s credibility from the mast. http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/ [...] [...] Theistic evolutionist state that: …I don’t want Christianity’s credibility to be tied to the mast of any sinking ship. Trust me when I say that creationism is a sinking ship, and everyone outside the evangelical/fundamentalist bubble knows it. Don’t worry: you’ve still got time to board a lifeboat! But first, do help me untie our faith’s credibility from the mast. http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/ [...]

]]> By: Steve http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/#comment-2982 Steve Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:49:11 +0000 http://undeception.com/?p=379#comment-2982 Fair enough, Alex. I am indeed describing more of an American problem than a UK problem to be sure - but Australia's evangelicals are just about the same, from what I understand. <blockquote>What do you mean by “special creationism”?</blockquote> I use the "special" description chiefly to distinguish it from "evolutionary", as in "evolutionary creationism", which is a bit of a euphemism for "theistic evolution". Special creationism is the idea that natural processes alone cannot account for biodiversity and required special intervention from God, whereas "evolutionary creationism" affirms that God created via natural processes without need for intervention. Fair enough, Alex. I am indeed describing more of an American problem than a UK problem to be sure – but Australia’s evangelicals are just about the same, from what I understand.

What do you mean by “special creationism”?

I use the “special” description chiefly to distinguish it from “evolutionary”, as in “evolutionary creationism”, which is a bit of a euphemism for “theistic evolution”. Special creationism is the idea that natural processes alone cannot account for biodiversity and required special intervention from God, whereas “evolutionary creationism” affirms that God created via natural processes without need for intervention.

]]> By: Steve http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/#comment-92076 Steve Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:49:00 +0000 http://undeception.com/?p=379#comment-92076 Fair enough, Alex. I am indeed describing more of an American problem than a UK problem to be sure - but Australia's evangelicals are just about the same, from what I understand. <blockquote>What do you mean by “special creationism”?</blockquote> I use the "special" description chiefly to distinguish it from "evolutionary", as in "evolutionary creationism", which is a bit of a euphemism for "theistic evolution". Special creationism is the idea that natural processes alone cannot account for biodiversity and required special intervention from God, whereas "evolutionary creationism" affirms that God created via natural processes without need for intervention. Fair enough, Alex. I am indeed describing more of an American problem than a UK problem to be sure – but Australia’s evangelicals are just about the same, from what I understand.

What do you mean by “special creationism”?

I use the “special” description chiefly to distinguish it from “evolutionary”, as in “evolutionary creationism”, which is a bit of a euphemism for “theistic evolution”. Special creationism is the idea that natural processes alone cannot account for biodiversity and required special intervention from God, whereas “evolutionary creationism” affirms that God created via natural processes without need for intervention.

]]> By: Alex Fear http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/#comment-2981 Alex Fear Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:26:48 +0000 http://undeception.com/?p=379#comment-2981 Hmm.. Fair enough Steve. I originally posted on here because the way you were coming across, not the actual points you were making. It got carried away, but I thought it was worth going there. I noticed people were making some potentially beardronneous claims about specific out-of-context bible verses - of how they could be interpreted literally - when it doesn't seem to me that a creationist or the original authors/audience would interpret it as such. But then it does seem you are describing an American problem. As one wise man once said to me <em>"American Christianity is as wide and as deep as the Mississippi river"</em>.. and before I get blasted for America-bashing, it was an American who first spoke those words to me. BTW What do you mean by <em>"special creationism"</em>? Hmm..

Fair enough Steve. I originally posted on here because the way you were coming across, not the actual points you were making. It got carried away, but I thought it was worth going there.

I noticed people were making some potentially beardronneous claims about specific out-of-context bible verses – of how they could be interpreted literally – when it doesn’t seem to me that a creationist or the original authors/audience would interpret it as such.

But then it does seem you are describing an American problem. As one wise man once said to me “American Christianity is as wide and as deep as the Mississippi river”.. and before I get blasted for America-bashing, it was an American who first spoke those words to me.

BTW What do you mean by “special creationism”?

]]> By: Alex Fear http://undeception.com/why-the-debate-over-creationism-matters/#comment-92075 Alex Fear Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:26:00 +0000 http://undeception.com/?p=379#comment-92075 Hmm.. Fair enough Steve. I originally posted on here because the way you were coming across, not the actual points you were making. It got carried away, but I thought it was worth going there. I noticed people were making some potentially beardronneous claims about specific out-of-context bible verses - of how they could be interpreted literally - when it doesn't seem to me that a creationist or the original authors/audience would interpret it as such. But then it does seem you are describing an American problem. As one wise man once said to me <em>"American Christianity is as wide and as deep as the Mississippi river"</em>.. and before I get blasted for America-bashing, it was an American who first spoke those words to me. BTW What do you mean by <em>"special creationism"</em>? Hmm..

Fair enough Steve. I originally posted on here because the way you were coming across, not the actual points you were making. It got carried away, but I thought it was worth going there.

I noticed people were making some potentially beardronneous claims about specific out-of-context bible verses – of how they could be interpreted literally – when it doesn’t seem to me that a creationist or the original authors/audience would interpret it as such.

But then it does seem you are describing an American problem. As one wise man once said to me “American Christianity is as wide and as deep as the Mississippi river”.. and before I get blasted for America-bashing, it was an American who first spoke those words to me.

BTW What do you mean by “special creationism”?

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