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Back and broadcasting live!

September 20th, 2012 | 0 Comments

I hope my readers won’t mind my calling attention to the reconstitution of the [ad hoc] Christianity podcast, which I co-host with two of my friends. We’ve decided to give it another go with a different format: it’s being reincarnated as a video show, specifically a Hangout On Air that’s streamed live over YouTube, courtesy of Google+. Don’t worry: you don’t have to have upgraded to Google+ or even have a Google account to stream it from our YouTube channel. Plus, it’ll be available as a regular YouTube video immediately after the show is done, so subscribe! (We’ll keep up the audio mp3 feed for the new shows, merely the audio stripped out of the video, for those who prefer that.)

Last week we really kicked things off well by having a lively discussion with the esteemed, unsettled, often unsettling, and generally just far-left biblioblogger Joel Watts, so be sure to check that out first.

This week we’re going to check back in with our old buddy Mike Beidler, whose journey from young earth creationism to acceptance of evolutionary theory we chronicled some time ago. This time around we’re going to check the pulse of the conservative, traditionally anti-evolution Evangelical movement to see where we think it’s going, plus whatever else we can cram in.

If you’re awake at 10pm EST tonight, why not watch our live stream, either from our our YouTube channel or on our Google+ page? We’ll be looking out for you and any comments you post on the G+ or YouTube page. In the future we’d like to invite our viewers into the Hang Out room with us…provided we get any live viewers!

Of course, if you want or need to catch it after the fact, subscribe to our video channel or to our audio-only RSS (here’s the iTunes link).

Christian universalist Robin Parry on Beyond the Box

July 10th, 2012 | 0 Comments

One of my favorite podcasts, Beyond the Box, just published an interview with interview with Robin Parry on the subject of the Christian universalism movement of today.

Also known under his pseudonym Gregory MacDonald, Parry (blog) was a key figure in bringing a distinctively Christian, non-pluralistic version of the belief that all souls would eventually be reconciled to God through Christ leaps and bounds closer to the mainstream four years ago with the publication of his book, The Evangelical Universalist in 2006–well ahead of the Rob Bell curve. (Side note: I think Robin Parry was in a much better position to make Christian universalism a palatable option for Evangelicals than Rob Bell was: a lot of the good done by Parry seems to have been undone by the furor over the book written by the already controversial and theologically sloppy Bell.)

I never got around to reading it: I was under the impression that Parry was trying to shoehorn prooftexts into universalist arguments from an inerrantist perspective. I realize now that he is much more nuanced than that and is using the term “evangelical” in its rich, historically grounded sense rather than in its common usage of referring to conservative-yet-not-Fundamentalist Christians. I am now a universalist myself, so I might find it more interesting than I once did; the second edition is up for pre-order.

Anyway, I don’t have much to say about this interview, but I did want to point out a few things to look out for that I found worthy of attention:

  • Parry weighing in on his hunch as to what is behind the slow but sure warming of Evangelicals toward Christian universalism
  • Some interesting points about exclusivistic vs. inclusivistic forms of Christian universalism (as opposed to pluralism)
  • Parry’s response to a question about what theological changes have come about subsequent to his embrace of universalism. Short answer: it wasn’t so much that other aspects of his theology changed with his universalism, but the other way around. It was his view on hell that didn’t fit key aspects of his Christian theology. His soteriology finally caught up to his understanding of God: I find this to be quite true for me as well.
  • The discussion about why universalism can legitimately attract both those who laud and those who lament the doctrine of penal substitution

Here’s the link again (direct mp3 link).

Warning: there is some bad Skype audio on Parry’s end.

Heads up: Lawrence Krauss vs. Rodney Holder on Unbelievable

April 28th, 2012 | 0 Comments

There have been a few recent discussions in the blogosphere tangentially related to Lawrence Krauss’s recent book, A Universe from Nothing, including an off-handed post by me and a short one by Eric Reitan. Today’s episode of the Unbelievable radio show promises to be interesting. You can probably expect me to give my thoughts on it once I have a chance to listen to it at the beginning of the week. For now, here’s the episode summary:

Lawrence Krauss is a Cosmologist at Arizona State University who describes himself as an “anti-theist”.  His latest book “A Universe from Nothing“ has received both acclaim and criticism for its attempt to answer the question “Why is there something rather than nothing?”

Debating the issue with Krauss is Rodney Holder, Course director at the Faraday Institute, Cambridge. An astrophysicist and priest by background.

In a lively exchange they debate whether Krauss’ “nothing” is “nothing”, fine tuning and multiverses, scientific knowledge, miracles and the usefulness of theology and philosophy.

David Bentley Hart on fortuitous effects of Christianity

June 27th, 2011 | 6 Comments

What interests me—and what I take to be demonstrable and important—is the particular ensemble of moral and imaginative values engendered in numberless consciences by Christian beliefs. That such values had political and social consequences I certainly do not deny; I feel fairly safe in saying, for instance, that abolitionism—as a purely moral cause—could not easily have arisen in any non-Christian culture of which I am aware. That is quite different, however, from claiming that Christianity ineluctably or uniquely must give rise to, say, democracy or capitalism or empirical science. It is to say, rather, that the Christian account of reality introduced into our world an understanding of the divine, the cosmic, and the human that had no exact or even proximate equivlanet elsewhere and that made possible a moral vision of the human person that has haunted us ever since, century upon century.

David Bentley Hart, Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and Its Fashionable Enemiesp. 202-203

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The above quote was called to my attention by the latest episode of the Unbelievable? radio show, in which Hart and Terry Sanderson, president of the UK’s National Secular Society, debate the potential results of the new atheist goal of secularization and the relegation of all religion to individual, inconsequential observance (at best).

I’ve been interested in David Bentley Hart since my friend Cliff Martin reviewed his book a couple years ago. The above quote is indicative of his approach, which is careful not to argue that Christianity is true because it does this or that for the world. As he says on the show, “The book is not an exhortation to ‘believe, because if we don’t, we don’t have moral rationales for behaving the way we ought to behave.’ ” In fact, “It’s not that anyone would deny that there is some natural promptings and desire for the good that is part of our human natures (if you believe in human nature); every faith says as much, that these are indeed human good and human values.” He finds it “silly” to suppose that we would have rationally deduced specifically the types of values that most of us, secularists included, find most important: ”It’s simply the lesson of history that what that desire for the good produces is not a particular set of values that are immediately rationally recognizable.” His point is that we cannot and should not ignore that Christianity has yielded felicitous impacts on society that he finds exceedingly unlikely to have occurred in a truly secular environment devoid of Christian influence—benefits which he insists are likely to dwindle in the thoroughly secularized society that’s been progressively more stridently advocated in recent years.

Sanderson, of course, disagrees, which leads to some stimulating discussion. Highly recommended.

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Khirbet Qeiyafa participant interviewed on the Christian Humanist Podcast (updated)

June 20th, 2011 | 6 Comments

(Updated)

Recently on the [ad hoc] Christianity podcast we linked to a few articles around the blogosphere discussing Khirbet Qeiyafa and its implications for minimalists, i.e. those historians who expect that the historicity of the Bible’s stories is minimal at best. Khirbet Qeiyafa is a site on the border of ancient Israel and Philistine territory that many say problematizes the claims that no Israelite kingdom of any appreciable size existed during the time of David.

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A podcast I enjoy, and this despite frequently disagreeing with it vociferously, is The Christian Humanist Podcast. Well, this week‘s discussion is on archaeology, particularly as it relates to the Bible. I am much more of a minimalist than anyone on this show, but fortunately a significant block of time was given to discussion of the Khirbet Qeiyafa dig, due to guest Luke Chandler, an archaeologist an ancient historian who’s been working at the site for the last few years (who blogs here).

Among the discussions of this show were the ancient name of the site, whether the language of the inscriptions is an early form of Hebrew, whether evidence actually suggests that the inhabitants were keeping kosher(!), and a conservative yet appreciably circumspect view of the limits of biblical archaeology for determining the Bible’s reliability. Chandler also takes some time to discuss the recent trend of fraudulent claims made by some who may justifiably be known as “naked archaeologists” in that they have been entirely denuded of credibility.

Just a minute more to plug the Christian Humanist podcast again: as I said, they are theologically quite a bit more conservative than I, but if you would enjoy some unusually erudite and interesting discussions of literature, history, and culture involving likable personalities, I suggest that you subscribe (iTunes link here).

(Update) The guest is not an archaeologist but an ancient historian working with the archaeologists at Khirbet Qeiyafa.

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Eric Reitan interviewed on the [ad hoc] Christianity Podcast

June 10th, 2011 | 0 Comments

Just in case you didn’t get the memo:

We were pleased to have the chance to chat with Eric Reitan. Eric is Professor of Philosophy at Oklahoma State University and the author of the excellent blog The Piety That Lies Between: A Progressive Christian Perspective (a favorite of our blog reviews), as well as two books. We talk about the background of his faith, his response to Richard Dawkins in Is God a Delusion?, his thoughts on the nature of apologetics, and his forthcoming co-authored book on Christian universalism, God’s Final Victory: A Comparative Philosophical Case for Universalism.

Listen/subscribe to the show over at [ad hoc] Christianity.

Star Trek: Resurrection (fun with continuity errors)

June 8th, 2011 | 7 Comments

This last week’s episode of the Unbelievable? radio show was a rerun, but a good one to listen to (if you’re patient, that is). It was a conversation between apologist Jay Smith and atheist Stephen Pilcher concerning the so-called “Easter Challenge“: can you weave together all the NT accounts of that seminal event in Christian theology, the Resurrection?

The show goes as might be expected. Naturally, the apologist thinks he can meet the challenge. And so he tries, pulling together all the disparate accounts with different eyewitnesses, sequences of events, and other information and weaving them into a harmonized tapestry (compliments of Andy Bannister). The atheist isn’t buying it. The apologist hears all of the atheists’ objections, but he doesn’t buy them, either, because he has an explanation that can support his presupposition of the NT’s complete correspondence with actual history. On the whole it reminds me of another creative “enterprise” of affirming and concocting continuity.

Can Star Trek’s continuity over several series and movies be resolved? Despite certain hiccups (the Klingons’ foreheads, anyone?!), a devout Trekkie will tell you, “Sure, if you try hard enough.” The originators of new content were often simply not familiar enough with all the other existing content to produce a seamless narrative and probably nearly as often were aware but intentionally recast certain plot points or character details for the purposes of their current script. Convincing resolutions of continuity errors are debated among the fans, so it was welcome news when ENT finally explained why Klingons’ appearance changed between TOS and TMP. But unlike apologists, Star Trek fans realize that they’re only interested in the effort of clearing up continuity errors in order to preserve an ideal of continuity that was simply not shared by their sources (especially Gene Roddenberry). They were all functioning from within varying perspectives and emphases, and so their material differed.

Smith readily acknowledges that each NT author also had different perspectives and emphases: he clings to this, in fact, since that alone begins to account for the very different ways the Resurrection accounts are presented. But different emphases and perspectives are not enough to explain why the authors of the accounts selected testimony with so many surface incongruities with one another. As is commonly pointed out, for any given complex of confluent events such as those leading up to and following a car wreck, four eyewitnesses will most often have some conflicting testimony, and while those differences can often be explained (bad eyesight, fear of implicating themselves, etc.), they can’t always be believably explained away to be completely reconciled as independent, factual observations. Nor does anyone expect them to be, unless requirements of unfailing factual accuracy are applied ex post facto.

Ok, so the various authors were drawing on different sources, viewing them from different angles. But can we credibly account for the reasons the authors drew on those different sources, especially when they seemed to contradict one another? Yes, each author wrote for his own purpose and to his own audience, but if Luke’s explicitly stated purpose was to consult the various sources and compile them into an “orderly account”, this was his opportunity to do so for a subject of peak importance. Even if he did what he could with what he had available, it’s a shame indeed that the Holy Spirit didn’t inspire him to undertake what Andy Bannister would some two thousand years later!

Granted, if the events took place precisely as Jay Smith thinks they must have, the details could indeed be pulled apart and divvied up over the different NT authors to give us exactly what we have. And I’d like to go further and state that some of the discrepancies can indeed be plausibly accounted for or dismissed. For instance, Smith points out the weak objection that there are “men” at the tomb in Luke’s account vs. “angels” in Matthew’s: in the first century, angels were not pictured with wings, and so may not have been readily distinguishable from humans (cf. Heb 13.2). We can indeed get nit-picky to the point of nonsense if we’re consciously trying to pull apart a story (just ask a defense attorney), and many critics do. Still, how plausible is the intricate aggregation of all the rationalizations required to order to present a single unified account?

As with Star Trek, given the conviction that it all must hang together, continuity can be achieved. Square pegs can be crammed into round holes. This is why it’s hard to dissuade someone from believing in inerrancy: humans are well-suited for coming up with explanations to fit their expectations, even if it requires “explaining away”.

While admitting their own presuppositions, Jay Smith and host Justin Brierley both contended that Pilcher came to the table with certain theological presuppositions of his own. While no doubt true, I think this is mostly irrelevant for Pilcher’s view, but it is telling on the part of Smith and Brierley. As a Christian who believes that in one way or another the Resurrection occurred, my baseline theological presuppositions do not differ so very radically from the Christians on the show. What puts me closer to Pilcher’s views than Smith’s on this issue is only a difference in theological presupposition insofar as the Smith’s theology is based upon certain expectations of Scripture that I do not share.

As Justin Brierley admitted, “We come [to the Bible] with an attitude of faith, and when we see things that are contradictions we will happily say ‘yes’ to something which helps us to reconcile them.” First, notice that their faith is in the Bible, or at best, in God’s intention to give us a crystallized piece of truth (which happens to be the Bible). And so they approach the Bible with a certain expectation that is to be defended at all costs, and consequently they’ll gladly accept anything that appears to help their case, cumbersome and implausible as it may be on its own merit. On the other hand, I come to the NT accounts with an expectation that they are a collection of ancient texts consisting of differing people’s takes on a bewildering event that certainly would have easily outlasted the memory of the events surrounding it. If anything, for me this aftershock haze of refracted recollection and attempted reconstruction, which was then visualized by the theological emphases of the different Gospel narratives’ craftsmen, actually serves the purpose of focusing the lens on the event in question: the Resurrection.

If we wake up one morning to find Reuters, the AP, the New York Times, Yomiuri Shimbun, and the Times of India all reporting on the same astoundingly surprising story, will we insist upon a complete harmonization of their accounts before believing the story that induced them all to publish? Will we demand that every single story each paper publishes in their respective issues be inerrant as a condition for believing the basic event they’re recounting? In the end we may not believe their story, but it won’t be because of such unreasonable expectations as those.

No, the first century accounts of the NT do not come close to matching the reporting standards of a modern newspaper — understood, acknowledged, undisputed. But that’s kind of the point, isn’t it? Outside of a presupposition of an inerrant Bible, which I don’t at all share, why should we expect such a thing from Paul, Luke, and the other Evangelists? They wrote decades later than the events they describe, only marginally intending to solidify an already fuzzy remembrance of peripheral details, and they presented the events in ways that applied particular lessons tailored to their respective audiences.

The Easter Challenge, like so many other evangelistic atheist methods, is most successful at putting Christians on the defensive about something they really have no need to be defensive about. We don’t need inerrant, reconcilable Easter accounts in order to place hope in the Resurrection. Losing one’s faith in the Bible’s ability to perfectly convey certain facts does not require a loss of faith in the facts underlying their imperfect conveyance. It requires considerably less blind credulity on my part to believe in the event testified to in the various conflicting and competing Easter morning accounts than to bank my entire faith upon the faultless concord and historicity of those accounts. Sure, we can’t prove the Resurrection, given that the event is only recorded in a Bible that is neither inerrant nor completely consistent internally, but it’s easier to believe in that event for which no contrary evidence exists than to believe that the Bible is inerrant and completely consistent internally, a contention for which contrary evidence abounds and which requires…well, creative explanations to support it.

Luckily, Paul did not say that we had to feign or psyche ourselves into absolute certainty that God raised Jesus from the dead, or that the NT contains an inerrant account of it (what rum luck it would have been for anyone alive before the Inerrant and Completely Trustworthy Account was available!): he said that believing it in our hearts was sufficient. And that I do, continuity errors notwithstanding.