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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Andrew. I hope the analogies prove helpful for you.

It was C. S. Lewis&#039;s &quot;true fictions&quot; that first broke me out of the modernist expectation of &quot;hard&quot; history in Scripture, so I understand where you&#039;re coming from. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;It also serves as a helpful check on way we chop up the grand narrative of the Bible into little pieces to proof-text our theology.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well said. &quot;The big picture&quot; was much more important in ANE literature like the OT than the dissected point-by-point analysis so popular among today&#039;s exegetes (which might be somewhat more legitimately applied to the Gospels and Acts -- but not much).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Andrew. I hope the analogies prove helpful for you.</p>
<p>It was C. S. Lewis&#8217;s &#8220;true fictions&#8221; that first broke me out of the modernist expectation of &#8220;hard&#8221; history in Scripture, so I understand where you&#8217;re coming from. <img src='http://undeception.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>It also serves as a helpful check on way we chop up the grand narrative of the Bible into little pieces to proof-text our theology.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said. &#8220;The big picture&#8221; was much more important in ANE literature like the OT than the dissected point-by-point analysis so popular among today&#8217;s exegetes (which might be somewhat more legitimately applied to the Gospels and Acts &#8212; but not much).</p>
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		<title>By: CircleReader</title>
		<link>http://undeception.com/indiana-jones-and-the-fall-of-man/comment-page-1/#comment-14484</link>
		<dc:creator>CircleReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always read Genesis as a sort of &quot;existential account,&quot; of human beings, focused on what it means to be who we are. That just always, even when I was a child, seemed like the &quot;plain meaning&quot; of the text. (Perhaps my early reading community contained more of C.S.Lewis&#039; true fictions than Ken Ham&#039;s false &quot;facts,&quot; so I felt no need to treat it as a science handbook.) What fills me with awe is how wise this story turns out to be, no matter the century in which the reader lives: start looking into the human experience of work, gender, worship, community, environmental stewardship, place, rules &amp; choices, brokenness &amp; evil -- and there&#039;s this story, staring you back in the face. It&#039;s what I&#039;d expect of an inspired text. 

But it&#039;s always been hard for me to explain just what sort of approach this plain-but-existential reading of Genesis was. Your &quot;Batman vs. Indiana Jones&quot; origin comparison does that brilliantly! 

It also serves as a helpful check on way we chop up the grand narrative of the Bible into little pieces to proof-text our theology. To be true to a Christian witness of the human experience of God, it&#039;s no good taking only part of the picture. We weren&#039;t first one thing, then another (like Batman) -- we are what what the whole story always says (like Indiana Jones). And if the &lt;em&gt;whole&lt;/em&gt; story speaks to how we are as human beings, then the account of creation includes the fall -- and looks forward to it&#039;s redemption as well&gt;
.-= CircleReader&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://readingcirclebooks.com/blog/2009/11/14/little-things/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Little Things - or, The Lives of the Flu Cell&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always read Genesis as a sort of &#8220;existential account,&#8221; of human beings, focused on what it means to be who we are. That just always, even when I was a child, seemed like the &#8220;plain meaning&#8221; of the text. (Perhaps my early reading community contained more of C.S.Lewis&#8217; true fictions than Ken Ham&#8217;s false &#8220;facts,&#8221; so I felt no need to treat it as a science handbook.) What fills me with awe is how wise this story turns out to be, no matter the century in which the reader lives: start looking into the human experience of work, gender, worship, community, environmental stewardship, place, rules &amp; choices, brokenness &amp; evil &#8212; and there&#8217;s this story, staring you back in the face. It&#8217;s what I&#8217;d expect of an inspired text. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s always been hard for me to explain just what sort of approach this plain-but-existential reading of Genesis was. Your &#8220;Batman vs. Indiana Jones&#8221; origin comparison does that brilliantly! </p>
<p>It also serves as a helpful check on way we chop up the grand narrative of the Bible into little pieces to proof-text our theology. To be true to a Christian witness of the human experience of God, it&#8217;s no good taking only part of the picture. We weren&#8217;t first one thing, then another (like Batman) &#8212; we are what what the whole story always says (like Indiana Jones). And if the <em>whole</em> story speaks to how we are as human beings, then the account of creation includes the fall &#8212; and looks forward to it&#8217;s redemption as well&gt;<br />
<span class="cluv"> CircleReader&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://readingcirclebooks.com/blog/2009/11/14/little-things/" rel="nofollow">Little Things &#8211; or, The Lives of the Flu Cell</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://undeception.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mike: Great analogy. I&#039;ve felt sycophantic in my commenting of late, Steve :P.
.-= Damian&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://castleofnutshells.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/authority-is-not-submission/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Authority is not submission&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mike: Great analogy. I&#8217;ve felt sycophantic in my commenting of late, Steve <img src='http://undeception.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
<span class="cluv"> Damian&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://castleofnutshells.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/authority-is-not-submission/" rel="nofollow">Authority is not submission</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://undeception.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I thought you&#039;d appreciate that. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I thought you&#8217;d appreciate that. <img src='http://undeception.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Beidler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Beidler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this particular etiological analogy&#039;s going in my book.  And so is your name.  Congratulations.  ;-)
.-= Mike Beidler&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thecreationofanevolutionist.blogspot.com/2009/11/return-of-evolutionist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Return of the Evolutionist?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this particular etiological analogy&#8217;s going in my book.  And so is your name.  Congratulations.  <img src='http://undeception.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv"> Mike Beidler&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://thecreationofanevolutionist.blogspot.com/2009/11/return-of-evolutionist.html" rel="nofollow">The Return of the Evolutionist?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://undeception.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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