Dr. Francis Collins is a remarkable man. He was the director of the phenomenally successful Human Genome Project that mapped the entire human genome years ahead of schedule. He’s a devout evangelical Christian who enjoys leading worship and writing songs that express the deep faith he acquired long after his acceptance of evolutionary theory.

I thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Collins’s book The Language of God: a Scientist Presents Evidence for Faith, which is a testimony/autobiography as well as a discussion of reasons why he believes faith and science are complementary rather than at odds. I thought, though, that his evidence for evolution (directed at Christians skeptical of it) was much better than his evidence for faith (directed at atheists skeptical of it). This evidence relied on the moral argument and to a lesser extent, the fine-tuning argument. Really quick summary of the moral argument: certain core aspects of human morality seem universal and do not seem to be adequately accounted for by a materialistic world and an ancestry based in the amoral animal kingdom. Really quick summary of the fine-tuning argument: the probabilities that 1) a universe like ours, 2) a planet as habitable as ours is, and 3) life on this planet would all have originated naturally seem by current understanding to be astronomical. Collins has more good sense than to pass either of those arguments off as proof of a deity with an intention for humanity (still less as proof of the Christian God), but he uses them as his book’s subtitle suggests: evidence for faith.

As nice as it would be to be able to use those arguments, as yet I’m personally not comfortable with these sorts of “pointers to God”. Notice my italicized phrase in the last paragraph. If history is any indicator (and we keep looking), “the moral law” will turn out to have a much more natural explanation, and Christians who have been telling people that its supernatural origin is evidence for faith will have some egg on their face. No, evidence that the universe’s development is not so remarkable (for instance) would not alone undermine anyone’s faith. And Collins makes sure to say that his faith is more personal and relational than merely rational; in fact, I would say he is attempting more to explain why he can be intellectually satisfied as a believer than to hold up these things as evidences in and of themselves. Still, I can’t help wishing people would stop expecting to see supernatural peeking through the natural, as it were.

In other words, one can understand the physical world completely well in naturalistic, even materialistic terms. But trying to find God in the gaps of our current understanding of how (even in the question “how likely”) is bound to be an ever dwindling prospect as our understanding grows. If there is any place for God, we will find it in the search for meaning behind a gap-free understanding of the physical how’s of the universe. By my reckoning, Christianity’s still got the best description of meaning, one that functions on a practical level in giving believers a mission to love in a hyper-human way. As I have said before, I think Christianity was intended to be a vital phase in the evolution of humanity toward which the “moral law”, social consciousness, etc. was already pointing.

Now Dr. Collins has a wonderful new website discussing evolution that is oriented toward evangelicals. The organization behind the site is the BioLogos Foundation,200905032305.jpg named after a term he coined which he prefers over “theistic evolution” (I wonder what he thinks of “evolutionary creation“). In his words, “It’s a word that I made up, which means basically ‘life, by God speaking it into being.’ Bios is the Greek word for life, and Logos is from John 1:1: ‘in the beginning was the Word (Logos).’ “

Ok, as a substitute for “theistic evolution”, it sounds a bit corny (“I’m a BioLogician!”), if you ask me. But as a site and name for a foundation, it’s fine. And the site is wonderful.

The primary focus of the site right now is a souped-up FAQ answering evangelicals’ burning questions about evolution and how it jibes with Christian theology. Most of them are very good from what I’ve seen, but the question that is relevant to this post, “Question 13: What is a God-of-the-Gaps argument? Are fine-tuning and morality just new examples of this?“, is slightly troubling for the reasons described below. Here’s an excerpt talking about the “Fine-Tuning” argument:

One might argue that science could potentially explain the origins of these delicately balanced features, but there are two important things to keep in mind. First, it is very unlikely that a scientific theory could explain away the improbabilities of our Universe without raising other improbabilities. Second, an argument for fine-tuning is unlike a God-of-the-gaps argument in that it is not intended to prove God’s existence. While it is true that the fine-tuning of the Universe adds credence to belief in a creator, such recent scientific findings could hardly be called upon as the basis or justification of the long history of theistic belief. While the fine-tuning of the Universe does indeed lead many people to consider the possibility of God’s existence, the fact that science cannot disprove God’s existence assures us that it also cannot prove it. Instead, fine-tuning can be understood as a feature of the universe that is accordant with belief in a creator. A deeper scientific explanation of these features — albeit highly unlikely — would not ruin its usefulness as a pointer to God. [footnote omitted]

I don’t share Collins’s confidence that a forthcoming “deeper scientific explanation” is so improbable. Well, at least what we know so far is “accordant with belief in a creator”. But really: how many completely false ideas and inaccurate observations are “accordant with belief in a creator”? I find myself wondering how useful such a pointer is, any more than telling someone wanting to locate Draco to “look up at the sky when it’s nighttime”. I do understand his point: try not to look too delusional to atheists. This is a concern I share. But using as one of your primary evidences for your faith’s rationality statistics that have already shown some movement away from mind-blowing and toward simply scientifically interesting appears desperate (which is not much better than delusional).

Regarding the “Moral Law”, the site says:

The moral law also offers evidence that the world has evolved in a way that is consistent with the belief in a good and loving God. This remains true whether science eventually finds an account or explanation for morality. Even if a purely natural account of moral development could be found, the simple fact that morality has evolved is something that would be expected in a world created by a just and loving God.

I’ll admit, these apparent “pointers to God” are interesting, and I get what he’s saying; unless/until they are explained by a better understanding of the natural universe, the Moral Law and Fine-Tuning observations may well bolster pre-existing personal belief. The problem is that this talk is sure to be seized upon by Christians looking for another argument against the allegedly atheistic scientific establishment. This crowd will, despite Collins’s explicit rejection of this usage, take both of these as great apologetic tools or, worse, actual evidence against a universe governed proximately by non-supernatural laws, the type of universe that Collins and other “BioLogicians” such as myself believe in. There will doubtless be plenty of evolution-skeptics wandering around the site, not buying a word of it until they come to the Moral Law/Fine-Tuning stuff, whereupon they’ll tell themselves, “Well, at least my time wasn’t totally wasted: even an evolutionist can’t deny that this is dynamite evidence!” Used as purported evidence for the inadequacy of science to explain the processes responsible for the physical universe, these pointers will end up every bit as much God-of-the-gaps as Intelligent Design is.

So tell me, what do you think of the arguments as presented on the BioLogos webpage? Also be sure to let me know what you think of the site in general!

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  • Randy Vander Weit
    Thank you, Steve, for your kind words.

    Apologetics is not about giving proof but some responders seem to think that. I thank our Lord for the intellectual gifts he has given us but also learned (the hard way) the truth expressed in a poster of a RCA pastor's wife.

    A flippant ape is slouched back, stuffing himself with bananas. The caption reads, "Just when I found all the answers, they changed all the questions."

    Of course, the basic three questions of philosophy remain:
    1 - Existence,
    2 - Cruelty,
    3 - How we know what we know.

    Have a blessed new year, everyone! Maranatha.
  • Randy Vander Weit
    I find no purpose in knocking an incomplete answer. The Bible is full of them, glimpses of truth God has for us.

    In my mind "God created" sets us in one direction and all other answers of origins in another direction.

    At the heart of the "existence of cruelty" is whether or not God is tainted with it. If so (even duality--2 gods, one good one bad, constantly at war), then life as we know it will always be. Why worship? The Bible's answer is that God is good and he created a good universe. Angels and humans were created with the ability to love (more than an animal programmed to be loving.) We could choose not to. When Satan chose against it, he separated himself from God, and evil entered the universe. When Adam and Eve chose against it, they separated humanity from God, and evil contaminated the last refuge of the universe, that is, the Garden of Eden.

    Freud rejected this (and his Christian upbringing) and as the pioneer of psychology, set up a vocabulary (id, ego, superego, normal, abnormal) denying the existence of evil. Perhaps he mainly rejected the Puritanical (shame-based) contamination of Christianity. Being able to observe human behavior without preconceived ideas certainly helped his research.

    I accept Alexander Solzhenitsyn's observations, living in Russia (where religion was considered nothing but the opiate of the people): one might wish that reality was such that there would exist bad people who do their wrong deeds, and we only had to isolate and destroy them. The limits between the good and the bad, however, go right across any human's heart.

    Let's assume we are not create in the image of God. Why should morality be anything more than Me, myself, and I? Why should our lives be considered more valuable than other life, even the virus attacking us? Even an ear of corn has more DNA than us.

    But if God is good and loves me, he certainly would communicate with me, and the Bible claims to be that Word. It claims to reveal how to restore relationship with him. It claims that he reveals himself through the universe (and therefore all education). It claims that he reveals himself through others. It claims that he reveals himself through his Spirit. It claims that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

    In my childhood that fear was overemphasized. So as a teacher I taught that it means reverence. But I can't get away from the fact that "fear" is used many times. Yes, he loves me, adopts me as his child, and calls me friend. Yet I need to maintain a holy fear of him. He's God and I'm not. I need to stay grafted in the Vine to receive the spiritual nourishment I need. My efforts alone will steer me wrong.

    Hate is contagious, but so is love. Light overcomes darkness. Truth ultimately wins. Satan and his fellow fallen angels have been defeated. One was found worthy to open the scroll of Revelation 5. The kingdom of our Lord has come and is coming to fruition. We will eat of the tree of life and see his face. And his kingdom is forever. To God be the glory. Let the redeemed say so.

    Finally, we know what we know because God testifies in our hearts his truth. Or we latch on to whatever seems to soothe our souls.

    PS
    For the latest on the human genome, also on PBS, check out:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/beta/evolution/dna...
  • Randy,
    Wow, you covered a lot of ground here, and I appreciate much of what you had to say. I don't want to knock "pointers" at all -- in fact, I think they're the essence of our faith. We don't have any proof for God's existence, much less of His authorship of creation. What I'm afraid of is mistaking pointers for proof, and an apologetics site needs to make such things clear.

    Thanks for commenting!
  • Pete
    Thanks for thinking out loud in the stream of consciousness fashion only you can do.


    Hey, I gotta have some talent:)
  • Pete,
    Not sure how to respond to this except to say - I get your point and don't have much to disagree with in your comments. Thanks for thinking out loud in the stream of consciousness fashion only you can do. :)
  • Pete
    (I have decided that I don’t think a denial of the physical resurrection, while not something I’m presently inclined toward, is such an unimaginably damnable heresy).


    I thought about this a lot lately, I'm not sure exactly how it matters. Jesus was physically resurrected into a physical body on the physical earth with physical atoms being held together with the physical strong nuclear force, breathing physical oxygen and with a physical heart pumping that oxygen through his blood. But it was only 40 days later that He was transported to a non-physical dimension, where now I can only guess if he still has physical atoms, (or dead skins cells, like all other alive people?). Any relationship I might have with Him is surely in the spiritual realm, I pray to Him, but when He hears me it isn't because of sound waves or physical thought waves. When He intercedes in history (does He?), it is through divine power, not physical muscles. So what does it matter? Does it matter because it is a core principle of Christianity, that we will all be resurrected in the future? I suppose. Or was it because it validated His ministry? That is a popular one as well, but then again if the point was to show validation by showing yourself alive again, He should remain on earth and do it for all people going forward. As is, while be transported away from "physical space" in the "physical resurrected body", it is now indistinguishable as if it were a spiritual resurrection (or, sadly, indistinguishable from the entire thing being made up).
  • Ray
    Steve^2:
    Too much for me to comment back on right now, but thanks so much for interacting with my comments, all very helpful to me.
  • Hi Ray,
    I don’t think that Christianity’s historical claims are in any way the same as the claims about science. Here is an interesting snippet from Paul Seely that I like regarding the history and science in the bible:

    Perhaps it should be added that there are two issues involved. Science as such and historicity. My belief is that the science in the Bible is always the science of the times. It is always accommodated by God. I have tracked this in my studies from Genesis to Revelation. Or to put it in other words, God had no intention to reveal scientific truth in Scripture and did not do so.

    Historicity is a separate, if overlapping, problem. Biblical historians say or imply that they got their historical facts from human sources. Accordingly, their history can be no better than their sources, and this is why Gen 1-11, which evidences being based in part on outdated Mesopotamian sources, is so bad, later Genesis based on oral traditions and Kings based on royal chronicles is better, and the Gospels based on eye-witness accounts are best of all. This also answers the question of how we can with logical consistency make a separation between Gen 1-11 and what follows.

    Divine revelation was saved for matters of faith and morals


    I think that Christianity’s key historical claims (ie. Jesus death on the cross & his resurrection) are at the foundation of our faith. Evidence that demonstrated these claims to be highly dubious would destroy the basis for our faith, at least the orthodox version of Christianity.

    Tom Harpur’s claims that Jesus was not a historical figure & that his entire life was a fabrication built on an ancient Egyptian Myth (see “The Pagan Christ”). If Harpur’s claims are true, say bye-bye to the Christian faith. (No worries though – his stuff is about as plausible as Dan Brown’s  ). Or, if as many progressive / liberal Protestants claim, Jesus never physically rose from the dead & Paul’s allusions to this were not meant to be taken literal, again, bye-bye to our faith. These contentions do bear some merit at first blush, but IMO on closer inspection (eg. NT Wright, Richard Swinburne) also prove to be dubious. I doubt these faith claims can ever be proven one-way or the other (unless technology something like that developed in Arthur C. Clarke & Stephen Baxter’s “The Light of Other Days” ever comes to fruition – hey I love Sci-Fi  ) but I also think these faith claims are entirely reasonable.
  • I think that Christianity’s key historical claims (ie. Jesus death on the cross & his resurrection) are at the foundation of our faith. Evidence that demonstrated these claims to be highly dubious would destroy the basis for our faith, at least the orthodox version of Christianity.

    This wouldn't matter to me as much as knowing I was believing the truth. But as yet, despite the textual issues Ray mentioned, I have little reason to doubt the basic historicity of the death and resurrection of Christ, and a number of reasons to believe it, even if it were to take a highly unorthodox form (I have decided that I don't think a denial of the physical resurrection, while not something I'm presently inclined toward, is such an unimaginably damnable heresy). But determining how much doubting of traditional doctrines is too much doubting really begs the question of what exactly true Christianity is. I mean, we need to be sure that our faith is not in Christianity as we and others have defined it, but in Christianity as it really is.

    One of my favorite quotations that has guided me since I first started allowing myself to leave the "safe" evangelical terrain:

    It is worthy of especial observation that the Scriptures are distinguished from all other writings pretending to inspiration by the strong and frequent recommendations of knowledge and a spirit of inquiry. The word 'rational' has been strongly abused of late times. This must not, however, disincline us to the weighty consideration that thoughtfulness and a desire to rest all our convictions on grounds of right reasoning are inseparable from the character of a Christian. He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth will proceed by loving his own sect and church better than Christianity, and end in loving himself best of all. --- Samuel Taylor Coleridge
  • Ray
    Steve Martin said:
    "I actually anticipate that in the future we’ll get a better understanding of the “natural” origin of many aspects of morality but, as you indicated, “natural” & “supernatural” explanations do not have to be mutually exclusive. The foundation of our belief is the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ – that’s where we start – not with something from nature."

    Yes, agreed. Question though, if we start with incarnation, death, and resurrection, is it immune from the same analysis? Or is it a God of the gaps because the truthfulness of ancient history can be little known today.

    For instance, "What else could explain the disciples belief in a resurrection?" Now I don't know "what else", but what if textual criticism were to raise legitimate questions about how the narratives were written (it has I believe). Not to start a discussion of that, but hypothetically, "what if..."

    Science *does* provide testable hypotheses in a way history cannot. But does belief in the incarnation, death, resurrection, depend on faith in a similar way as Steve D. spoke of, as in a search for meaning? Or is belief in the incarnation something o fa God of the gaps, just on a different part of the spectrum from YEC and origins of morality?

    I'm not trying to make a case one way or the other, but throwing some questions out that I've been working through.
  • Ray
    "If there is any place for God, we will find it in the search for meaning behind a gap-free understanding of the physical how’s of the universe."

    I really appreciate your article and I have been thinking along the same lines. As soon as natural explanations for the gaps come along that seem reasonable and likely, the "God of the gaps" arguments tend to wither under modern scrutiny. Christian apologetics keep shifting to whatever gaps are the least provable to support their case for a "God of the Gaps," and what are seen as evidences of God's hand become indistinguishable from what things would look like if there was no God.

    I think we would all like a God that was more distinguishable to our natural eye if we could see that clearly. I think that is where YEC folks are coming from, wanting a clear (and easy to read) sign. Unfortunately for many, faith in God at that point (answering the search for meaning) really becomes an article of faith in the unseen. Uh oh!

    Do you think at that point the perspective of Christian apologetics fails? I mean, the naturalistic explanations support the athiests claim of no God, or of no God who revealed himself. Does faith become more of a way of life, perhaps the Way of following the teaching of Jesus, as opposed to a cognitive belief in the creedal statements? I am asking these questions as a person who no longer can confess the traditional creeds as truth, not having the cognitive belief in many of the "I believes."
  • I think that is where YEC folks are coming from, wanting a clear (and easy to read) sign. Unfortunately for many, faith in God at that point (answering the search for meaning) really becomes an article of faith in the unseen.


    Precisely! I've made that point many times. They act like I don't have enough faith to believe the Bible so that I trust science instead, when in fact, real faith in the biblical sense has much more to do with relationship (the "faithfulness" aspect) than cognitive assent, and that sort of living faith while facing your intellectual uncertainty is harder to maintain than telling yourself to believe one thing and demonizing contrary ideas.

    Does faith become more of a way of life, perhaps the Way of following the teaching of Jesus, as opposed to a cognitive belief in the creedal statements?

    To some degree, I think so. As I wrote on another blog recently:
    My big question nowadays is how important orthodoxy is in relation to orthopraxy. And yes, the latter is based on the former on a rudimentary level, but how far do we need to delve into “right teaching” before coming to a good knowledge of “right practice”? The judgment of the Sheep and the Goats was not based upon fine points of doctrine, but upon faith in practice. Micah 6.8 comes to mind. I am increasingly more convinced that the Christian ethic is, on the whole, at the core of our faith; relatively esoteric disputes over federal vs. genetic headship, substitutionary atonement vs. theosis can, and have, become distractions from doing the will of the Father. This is not to diminish the importance of acquisition of truth in matters of theology, because I can’t help but believe that faith seeks understanding, and that this process is in fact one of the “right practices” that indicate our maturity.

    Given the rudimentary nature of the traditional creeds you say you no longer confess, I sense that you have begun to question even more basic beliefs than I have (although I do certainly reject one particular teaching of the creeds).
  • Hi Steve,
    I haven't had time to go through everything on biologos site yet, so I can’t comment on all of the content. I am very pleased though that this type of resource is now available & am thankful that Collins, Falk, Giberson et al launched it. However, I agree with you that although Biologos is a great name for a site & foundation, I’m not really sure I like it as a replacement for evolutionary creation.

    I’m also uncomfortable with the “moral pointers” argument if these are claimed to be “supernatural” only and as a kind of foundation on which to base Christian belief. I actually anticipate that in the future we’ll get a better understanding of the “natural” origin of many aspects of morality but, as you indicated, “natural” & “supernatural” explanations do not have to be mutually exclusive. The foundation of our belief is the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Christ – that’s where we start – not with something from nature.
  • Good to hear from you, Steve.

    Yes, I think the key point is that in one sense, it is is the non-overlapping nature of faith and science that allows them to nonetheless coexist, not as much side-by-side as two sides of the same coin. Understanding that God's providence is not seen in spite of the natural processes science describes, but rather, it is when we examine them that we are watching God work has been phenomenally liberating.
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